tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post5203291211086619263..comments2024-02-11T01:11:11.604+00:00Comments on Beautiful Gymnastics: Worlds thoughtsBeautiful Gymnasticshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00935698970163328051noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-40759456359865924222014-09-30T21:06:26.868+01:002014-09-30T21:06:26.868+01:00My line-up for USA:
Vault: Ross, Skinner, Biles
B...My line-up for USA:<br /><br />Vault: Ross, Skinner, Biles<br />Bars: Ross, Kocian, Locklear<br />Beam: Kocian/Biles, Baumann, Ross<br />Floor: Skinner, Baumann/Ross, Biles<br /><br />I could see Biles being given a rest on bars at the very least. My problem is Ross is on every event. She could be traded out on floor, where her difficulty is very low and her attempts at upgrades have failed. That would leave Baumann, who isn't great on floor, but could put up a decent score even if she isn't as clean as Kyla or as powerful as Skinner or Simone. Simone needs resting more than anyone because she is by far the favorite for the AA, unlike Kyla who I don't really see factoring into the all around.<br /><br />My line up for Russia:<br /><br />Vault: Nabieva, Mustafina, Sosnitskaya<br />Bars: Kramamrenko, Spiridinova, Mustafina<br />Beam: Spiridinova, Mustafina, Kharenkova<br />Floor: Kharenkova, Sosnitskaya, Mustafina<br /><br />They have very little choice but to use Musty on every piece at this point. Their team so devoid of strong AAers that it leaves Aliya with the role of being plugged in wherever. I know Sosnitskaya has been training a Cheng but it was revealed so close to the WC that I wonder if they are fully comfortable in using it in Team finals. Maybe in Qualification and event finals. I can't see Nabieva or Kramarenko contibuting on anything but vault and bars respectively.<br /><br />My line-up for China: <br /><br />Vault: Tan, Yao, Chen<br />Bars: Shang, Huang, Yao<br />Beam: Bai, Shang, Yao<br />Floor: Tan, Yao, Shang<br /><br />Again, Yao, as the strongest all arounder, is likely to be up on every event. Vault is good, though their DTYs can easily be outscored by the US; bars is their strongest piece and they'll beat everyone there; beam can go either way since when they hit they can be lovely but it is also a more inconsistent event for this team, and floor is just plain weak. Novemberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06801480064430018702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-56995381055325522952014-09-29T22:33:26.724+01:002014-09-29T22:33:26.724+01:00It's hotting up now and I won't be posting...It's hotting up now and I won't be posting until next week when worlds actually begin as I'm going on holidays! I'll be checking in on news though and continuing to read comments :)<br /><br />(A YEAR since Antwerp seriously???)Beautiful Gymnasticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00935698970163328051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-32065246678551001802014-09-24T01:23:30.198+01:002014-09-24T01:23:30.198+01:00I completely agree Marta 100% knows what she is do...I completely agree Marta 100% knows what she is doing and the girls will be very consistent I think people are forgetting who are coaching these USA girls. They will be fineBrycenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-19151446623672205822014-09-23T23:45:18.297+01:002014-09-23T23:45:18.297+01:00I think USA is fine as long as Simone and Kyla sta...I think USA is fine as long as Simone and Kyla stay fine. They (USA) can easily qualify to team finals but Kyla and Simone will be up on practically everything. That's why I'm fine with the US girls not having much experience because they each only need to focus on 1 or 2 events. Plus if they needed a girl as a filler or back up I believe Kocian is decent everywhere and was saving herself for Worlds camp to not get injured. I also believe Marta prepares the girls really well so they will be consistent.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10166815623551602745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-7676380687585886032014-09-23T23:09:29.093+01:002014-09-23T23:09:29.093+01:00China is still able to give the USA competition be...China is still able to give the USA competition because to me this team for the US is the least talented in such a long period and have a great level of inconsistency (pan am was horrible for me). the amount of gymnast that were able to be strong all-around contenders in the past 12 years was amazing. we cannot say that with this bunch other than Kyla and Simone. if someone gets injured or is unable to performed for whatever reason the team to me is not prepared to have someone to cover that routine with a solid score. too many 2 and 1 event specialist. thank God the rest of the world is not doing any better.<br />anyway the US still has the edge but with no margin for big errors. China only weakness if floor and inconsistency, but they usually hit at home. <br />my prediction is USA, China, Italy/GB/Russia. that bronze medal is going to be a dog fight bet 3 or 4 teams Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-50518421493705879052014-09-23T15:36:04.310+01:002014-09-23T15:36:04.310+01:00I now agree with your Silver prediction for China....I now agree with your Silver prediction for China. I thought they were going to take Gold. However, there was inconsistency.headcasing on every event for China. Something happened on Bai's FTY to score only 8.0 in E. Shang fell on her difficult release combination (I don't think she competed it at Chinese nationals). On beam, either Huang Huidan or Chen Siyi fell (onto apparatus, not floor) and the other had a major wobble every element, both scoring only 7.5ish. On floor Tan Jiaxin fell and may have lost her front tumbling for landing on her butt first, Bai Yawen also struggled on floor. Although in 5 up 4 count, these mistakes are minimized, it could spell disaster in TF 3 up 3 count - as in 2010 where the mistakes of Jiang, Huang Quishang and Sui Lu cost them the Gold.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514067054232100422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-5453825989248763272014-09-23T15:22:12.658+01:002014-09-23T15:22:12.658+01:00Yeah I agree that there is something wrong with Sh...Yeah I agree that there is something wrong with Shang's leaps that is noticeable, but I don't know what it is exactly (is her front leg bent?). <br /><br />The highest E score was 8.45, so the E panel did score her high (deservedly so) compared to the rest of the field. Only two gymnasts received higher marks than her, and at least Bai Yawen deserved it. I didn't see the Japanese athlete's routine that scored 8.4 by E panel but perhaps it was the cleanest.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514067054232100422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-1943291809184298632014-09-23T09:28:07.309+01:002014-09-23T09:28:07.309+01:00Shang has really very poor extension on her leaps,...Shang has really very poor extension on her leaps, and it's definitely deductible. It's a shame because I love the way she lands her acro skills and she's a very good gymnast but she makes Larisa look like a prima ballerina to be honest. The E-score is still low, but not outrageously so. <br /><br />Jupp is likely only to contribute on beam, apparently - she competed bars at the recent British Team Champs (which was basically a test comp) and her score was low. I haven't seen any videos though.Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02640799404118833834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-68930241188351373342014-09-23T03:58:52.692+01:002014-09-23T03:58:52.692+01:00i just wanna say, i think we're at a point whe...i just wanna say, i think we're at a point where noone's predictions, TF or otherwise, will be accurate lol. <br /><br />It's worth mentioning that USA is always strong the 1st, 3rd, and final year of the quad. No really. Look at our overall performance at the 2nd year of any quad and guess what? no team gold, no AA gold, less EF medals. <br /><br />It's explainable, I believe, because the depth that is displayed in the first year diminishes as girls who think they have no chance getting on a world's team in the second year retire or quit elite. Then the rest of the girls who are B team gymnasts upgrade too much to compete with the top girls, but then they get injured. Then some of our top girls get injured in their year long effort to stay ahead and be picked for the team; all of these things happen as a reaction to the depth (and medals) that Team USA shows in the first year of the quad. Each girl asks herself, after that first year, 'do I really have what it takes to make next year's team, am I one of the best, how much do i think i want the Olympic glory?' etc etc. So I think it's a cycle that, like nature, is devastating yet NECESSARY, because in a weird survivalist type way, the girls who exit the program the second year allow for our talented juniors over the next two years to get the staff attention they need and prosper in a market now dominated by solely advanced and talented seniors. And that's when USA comes into the 3rd year.<br /><br />Proof: next year:Key, Dennis become senior. Maroney is back. Gowey is back. Biles makes the upgrades she's been wisely saving on, Locklear keeps getting better at bars/BB, as does Kocian, Baumann, Ross; likely Skinner may get even more consistent with higher FX d-scores. Then we have all our precious 2016 babies of which we can surely include Gaskins, Desiderio,Foberg, Hernandez and Ragan Smith. By the 4th year there is only a team of uber-talent, hardly any girl has a weakness, and its then that we fans cry because only five of them can make it...Sashahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07116446448131614120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2287202282884938977.post-67684671064308600922014-09-23T01:15:38.598+01:002014-09-23T01:15:38.598+01:00Yeah, I'm a new gym fan too, and this mid-quad...Yeah, I'm a new gym fan too, and this mid-quad slump makes Worlds seem lackluster. I also agree with you that in terms of team finals, it'll be all about who sucks less...<br /><br />I just saw the Asian Games videos. How the hell could they score the Chinese like that on beam?! By that logic, every other gymnast should get a 7.5 execution for a perfect beam routine! Other than that, they have amazing bar routines. Although, not only is it concerning that China has a huge competition right before Worlds, but it is not that good for them to rely on their bars so much for good scores. A fall on bars like Chunsong's could be trouble for China come team finals...<br /><br />The Russian, Romanian, and British teams are huge question marks at this point. I feel like the Russian team always gets injured right before Worlds. I'm actually expecting their team to change again. I think Russia would use Nabieva on vault in team finals because of her DTY (not a very good DTY but nevertheless more useful than an FTY). If someone else manages to upgrade vault like Kramarenko, Spiridonova, or Kharenkova, then Nabieva will only be used for qualifications. Romania has so many inexperienced girls with a lot of potential, but it could all go wrong in the end. But Romania is known for consistency come team finals so who knows? Even though they need to absorb two UB routines in the low 13's, they could potentially be on the podium only if others fall...a lot. Meanwhile, GB loses a good vault and bars routine because Tunney is injured. I'm still not sure about Gabby Jupp though. She's inexperienced and hasn't had any competitions for over a year, and now she's expected to help come Worlds? I'm sorry, but I can't believe that. Sure, it would be amazing if she did come back full force given GB's deficit on beam, but it's just so unlikely.<br /><br />On the bright side, event finals will have a deep field :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com