Gabby Douglas wins, Vika in second and Musty third. This was not really exciting, it was frustrating, difficult and annoying to watch.
Did Gabby deserve to win?
Yes, her greatest rival messed up her vault and Gabby hit four for four. She has really peaked at the right time, got all of her former inconsistency out of the way and she was exciting to watch. However, she was very overscored.
What overscores?
Her vault was offline and she stepped into the red. It scored the exact same as her stuck TF vault which was itself overscored. The judges basically said that if Gabby had stuck in the middle line, they would have given her McKayla's score. What kind of bullshit is this? Even 4 year fans KNOW McKayla's vault is of much higher quality. Her beam score was higher than Catalina Ponor's routine from TF's, and both of Sui Lu's beautiful routines. Gabby is a great beam worker when she's on, but she had an error and the other two are excellent beam workers, with a few tenths higher difficulty, so a 15.551 for Gabby is insane. Vika's beam was overscored too, but not in the same range. Gabby's inflated bars score was inline with Musty's, who also jumped four tenths. But Vika only jumped two. Floor was fair for all concerned, but the judges of the other three basically were applying Gabby bonus. It is unfair and so frustrating to see, regardless of whether she would have won without them.
But Vika came off the mat on her vault!
Yes she did, and that's what killed her. Keeping with overscored amanars, Vika could have scored in the 15.8-9 range, like she did in quals, with a well landed one. If she had, she would have won. Even with that, the fight between Vika and Gabby for gold should have been a lot closer and would have been if both were scored fairly.
Gabby hit everything though!
Yes, and well done to her. She is not responsible for her scores. But it is hard to watch someone being handed gifts like that. We all want a fair all-around. Gabby would have won regardless since Vika's vault was a big mistake, but FAIR SCORING should still be expected.
Would Musty have won without her fall?
No. She would still have gotten bronze. Her lack of an amanar sealed the deal for her really, as well as her wobbly beam.
Aly and Musty got the same score, so why is Aly in 4th?
They determined bronze by looking at combined e-scores. As is expected and fair, Musty's were higher. Very tough for Aly who was rattled after her huge error on beam though. Correction: They actually looked at the the three highest scores of each and combined the total. This is where Aly's beam sank her, instead of her weak bars being dropped, her beam was dropped instead- usually so strong, it had a big error. That meant her bars were up against Musty's hit 3 routines, and Aly's amanar was not enough to save her. Tiebreakers are unfair, what's the harm in two bronze medals?
Where was Larisa?
Languishing way down the rankings. Larisa's bars got a half decent score, but she watered down hugely on floor, downgrading her double double to a full-twisting double pike and her triple twist to a double twist. Very costly. That, her big wobble on beam and her DTY sealed the deal. Very sad to see, let's hope she can get back on track.
Highlights
- Vika, Musty and Gabby's bars. BEAUTIFUL
- Vika having the floor of her life knowing she would not be able to catch Gabby's score.
- Deng Linlin's beam. Proved her worth, nailed everything
- Musty's floor. Such a strong performance. Music is growing on me, probably because the start and end sound like Cradle of Filth.
- Vanessa Ferrari's floor. Great as usual!
- Rebecca Tunney having a GREAT competition
- Same for Elizabeth Seitz! Well done to her
- Deng Linlin and Huang Qiushuang both nailing everything! Deng had a rough time in TF, and HQS is headcase extraordinaire
- Sandra Izbasa beating both and placing fifth! WOW. Nobody expected that. Larisa was always set to outshine even the top contenders, and it wasn't really known who they would have as their second contender. Sandra's bars are not at Larisa's standard, but they were good, and great for a Romanian. Along with her excellent vault and floor and her decent beam, they were enough to boost her right up there. Great finish.
Not-so highlights
- Hannah Whelan's crashed vault, score of zero and her devastation. Awful to see, especially as she was in front of a home crowd
- Musty falling off beam, it looks like she could have fought for that, she wasn't so offline that it would have been the point of no return
- Larisa watering down bigtime to stay safe, which cost her very dearly. Hard to watch someone with the highest potential not on form in the AA
- Vika's vault landing, which cost her gold.
- Gabby's beam, bars and vault scores. Far too high.
- Aly's huge wobble on beam and hand down. Heartbreaking to see.
- HQS wayyy underscored on her excellent beam. 14.133 for that?? That's 1.4 under Gabby's, who had roughly the same SV and a leg up.
- Aly's bars outscoring Deng Linlin's and Larisa Iordache's. This is outrageous! While the other two also count bars as a weak point, both have substantially better swing and form than Aly. Aly HAS improved her form on this event, but it is still fugly compared to the other two. Aly also has the lowest SV out of the three..
I'm so annoyed about this! I would have preferred as I said, a podium of Larisa, Vika, Musty. I do not begrudge Gabby's win, she hit everything and she deserved it, especially in light of Vika's vault. I direct my ire at the judges who were on crack. She was not the only overscore- Musty's bars and Vika's beam spring to mind, but just like US trials and nationals, Gabby was on a different plane. It taints the whole thing when one is favoured.
Best leo: Larisa Iordache. I LOVE that Pikachu leo. Musty and Vika's was second, but a bit dull for me. Then Hannah/Rebecca's, then Gabby/Aly's. Would have preferred more variation from that lot. Vanessa Ferrari's had such promise, until I saw the cut-out shoulders- what the hell? Worst was the Australian leos. Bit fed up of Japan's now, it's gotten old.
I 100% agree with absolutely everything you said here. We seem to be the only two with these opinions (?), so I thought I'd let you know that you're not alone (and breathe a sigh of relief myself that I'm not alone).
ReplyDeleteThere's quite a few more on gymtruthteller! I would be much happier this with result if it was fair.
ReplyDeleteI partially disagree - I thought the scoring was consistently high, and Raisman was really the one who was overscored the most.
ReplyDeleteFor instance, on vault, yes Douglas was off line, but I think - and I haven't double checked this, so maybe I'm wrong - that she didn't land out of bounds, but actually just stepped out of bounds after she landed. In this CoP, stepping out of bounds is not an additional deduction beyond simply deducting for the step.
Yes, I agree that Douglas's score was very high compared to Maroney's score in team finals, but it's difficult to compare those two scores because the scores were on different days with different judges. Douglas's vault score was fair when compared with Raisman's or Komova's in the AA - I thought actually that both Raisman and Komova were overscored a bit in comparison. Raisman's form was poor in the air and she had a big hop, while Komova's vault was lower and of course she had the multiple steps.
I agree with you completely about Raisman's overscoring on bars - I don't know how they ended up with that score. Douglas's D score on bars was .1 higher than in team finals or prelims, and her execution I thought was very clean. I agree that HQS was underscored.
On beam, again I thought the scoring was consistently high among the contenders. Again, for me it's difficult to compare the scores from the AA to the TF and TP scores because there are different judges.
Anyway, in comparison to other Olympic AAs, I actually thought the scoring was more fair than usual!
Also wanted to mention that I love Komova on beam, but I thought her connections were tenuous at best throughout the competition.
DeleteYes although I live for Vika's extension and leaps on beam, that was overscored..especially in light of the landing too. They destroyed Jordyn's connections, should be equally as tough on others- though it is different judges.
DeleteGabby had the only decent amanar of the AA. Every single amanar of the whole Olympics has been overscored, it's a joke. Except McKayla's. Aly's still has gross form, Gabby's and Jordyn's are quite low and Vika and Maria's are quite sketchy..crap landings and form issues..Maria especially.
Yes I only discovered the other day that it's not a deduction to come off the mat, as long as you land in the white first. Right..that's quite stupid. The way Gabby fought to stay on the white and then had to give in and step into the red kind of confirmed that it would be a deduction in my head otherwise why would she fight so hard? Anyway, even with different judges her beam was not a 9 in execution and although she did use her full SV on bars and she did look better...a 15.5 would have been right.
I think I'd be able to handle Gabby, Vika, Musty and Aly being overscored if Huang, Larisa and Deng were too. Overscoring is okay if everyone is. When it's selective it's incredibly annoying. I know the judges are different too, but there's far too much disparity, they should be able to get much closer for the same routine's worth of deductions.
I think Komova deserved a higher score on floor, high enough to win gold. I'm not saying this because I'm a Komova Fan (altough I am), but because I really think she was a bit underscored.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything you said, aside from the podium. For me that would be Vika, Jordyn, Sandra (a girl can dream, right?) The overscores that Gabby got were simply unjustifiable. Everything was way too high, bars especially. Her piked Tkatchev is hideous and she is overrated on beam. I know Vika f'ed up vault but I still would have given it to her by a tenth or so, maybe by .033?
ReplyDeleteAgreed with the general overscoring. It was as though the judges had decided ahead of time who they wanted to place on the podium. Vika, Musty, Aly and the Gabster all got huge benefits of the doubt on practically every event, which Deng Linlin and Vanessa Ferrari did not get despite being in the top seeded group. Aly scoring 14.3 on bars? Please. But then of course she had to mess up beam...I find it funny that she is known for her consistency but has had a huge mistake in three major all-around finals in a row that prevented her from medalling.
It's times like these that make me miss the perfect ten system, even though I only started watching gymnastics after the change. Before 2006, there is no way that Mustfina or Raisman could have ended up on the podium. To be honest, I don't think that either of them deserved an Olympic medal for their performances, what with Musty jumping off beam, weak floor (undeserved EF medal aside) and Aly flopping all over the place. In the perfect ten system, Izbasa probably would have gotten bronze, because she had one great routine, one good routine, one fairly good routine, and one fairly poor routine, but had no major errors and probably could have had a 10.0 SV on all her events but vault.
Actually, I think if she had been in the top group, she would have at least been closer to third. Her vault was a clean RO 1/2 on full off (which I refuse to call the Mustafina since Pavs did it first), her bars better than Aly's, her beam low difficulty but well executed, and her floor fantastic as always. I have no idea how Aly's AA floor only scored .066 lower than hers, since Aly took out the punch layout and had her usual glaring execution errors while Sandra had a wonderful performance.